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October 25, 2021 at 07:52 #16069
Hi Juergen / All,
Good to hear you have solved the midi problem, I was with Uli at the weekend and passed the problem to him so he may contact you.
As you say he is defiantly “Mr Wersi” his level of knowledge is on a much higher plan / dimension. He’s also a really helpful nice guy.
Derek..October 3, 2021 at 11:58 #15393
Sorry I meant the music rest 3″ nearer……..
Derek….October 3, 2021 at 11:51 #15391
I think that is excellent, its looking a lot better than my version one ( see attached ).
Next version hopefully will mount the screen about 3inches forward so it just above the top of the screen.
Version 3 I’m planning a full size pedalboard.
Attachments:You must be logged in to view attached files.September 4, 2021 at 03:38 #14930
Thanks for that info (Pergamon Panel Layout) saved me finding out the hard way.
Also my comments on the ini.file were incorrect as I was looking at the Menu you see just before going into OAX eg. Wersi OAX or Settings.
Derek……PS. Your Styles are fantastic – Thanks Again!!September 2, 2021 at 03:17 #14921
Regards the solo board could be done but is it worth it?
Where would you install it??
Derek…..September 2, 2021 at 03:13 #14920
If still had my OAX 1 I would buy a 25 note midi pedalboard.
But don’t think its worth uninstalling the board on a 500 to install a bigger board,
although it would be possible. My organ building days are well over.
Derek…….September 2, 2021 at 03:06 #14919
Works on the top 2 1/2 octaves on lower manual, this common on a classical pipe organ.
Have spoke to Trevor and Tom.
Derek……September 1, 2021 at 11:17 #14897
Thanks again for your time, sorry I was not able to explain or get my point over sooner.
Its good to hear that Wersi are happy to help with the ini.file even though its an unofficial mod that gives me a full pedalboard cheeper than buying a OAX 700.
PS. Good of you Wersi!!!September 1, 2021 at 04:42 #14862
Problem solved – Thanks to Carlo – I will try to explain:-
Curt – There is no problem with Midi – Go to pedal on your 700 and select a sound, then go to sound edit, then select range and set (zone) C1 to E2. You will then see what I see on my 500. 25 notes but only the first 17 play, and that will be the case if you sent Midi on channel 3 only the first 17 play the following 8 notes are silent. Now if you change your zone to C1 to C3 you can play all 25 notes via Pedal or Midi.
My problem is that OAX 500 will not let me set zone C1 to C3 therefore I can’t play the top 8 notes via adding Midi Pedalboard.
Carlo – If I go into the Settings ini file there is no option to select LM or Pedal length as there is in the ini file of the OAX 1.
Note:- I have tried by setting the ini file to OAX 1 and then the option appears and if I change to 25 pedals and open OAX as if it were a OAX 1 it seems to work ok and I can play all 25 notes as you say.
Thanks all for help, Regards,
PS. “I do not advise anybody to try this, as Bill says it could void any warranty issues etc”.August 31, 2021 at 14:50 #14813
All the OAX’s that I’ve seen have shown 25 notes on the range in sound edit from memory.
But you can only set sounds/zones according to the pedal attached. On the OAX 1 you can change the settings for Lower Keyboard ( 61 or 76 ) and Pedal Size ( 13 or 17 ) in the settings or run Sonic menu in Windows. Whatever you set it still shows 25 notes.
Derek…..August 31, 2021 at 02:41 #14801
Thanks for that a bit of history I did not know.
I had a used OAX 1 with lower KB from Allens and I wanted to put a 25 note PB on for classical use and found it not possible. Also found it had an audio board fault and broken screen. Allens tried to obtain a new screen & board for over 6 months so in the end Trevor gave me a great deal on the OAX 500. As much as I liked the OAX 1 I found the 500 much better as it is all one small unit but still has the Wersi sound.
As far as I know it is only the OAX 1 & 500 that have this problem, note there is no USB-Midi on either. I also notice on the main website they don’t even show the OAX 1 with a PB of any type.
Derek…..August 30, 2021 at 15:46 #14796
If I connect Genos Midi A Out to Wersi Midi 1 in – I can control the Wersi Upper manual using the Genos keyboard set to channel 1. This will play the sound or sounds setup on that keyboard. But will only play notes within the Zone of the 5 octaves ( C1 to C6 ). On the OAX 500 in the sound edit ( double click sound ) The keyboard range at the top of screen only C1 to C6 exist. It is not possible to select or control any notes below C1 or above C6.
On the OAX 700 you will see the full 76 notes.
If I Transmit on channel 2 I can do the same on the lower keyboard.
When I Transmit on channel 3 I can control the 17 notes of the pedalboard playing the attached sounds. Although on the pedal sounds edit I can see the full 2 octaves ( 25 notes ) I can only setup sounds on the lower 17 notes the top 8 notes cannot be selected or put into a zone.
Therefore connecting a 25 note pedalboard is still not possible as far as I can see??
Wersi Midi 2 has not changed as far as I can see.
Have not had time to check Midi OX but I can see the signals leaving the Genos. Not around Tuesday will get back to you Wednesday.
Derek…..August 30, 2021 at 12:09 #14792
On the OAX 500 although I can see 25 pedals I can only set a zone of the bottom 17 notes, these are the only ones that I can play via midi ( set to channel 3 ).
I am only able to set zones within the 17 notes, these are the only ones I can play.
On the Upper & Lower I can see 61 notes ( not 76 notes ) the only notes playable are the 61
If I decrease the zone to say bottom 50 notes I can only play these.
Midi can only play notes within the zones?
OAX Midi is set to Upper 1, Lower 2, Pedal 3.
Note there is no USB-Midi on OAX 500 as with the OAX 1.
Derek.August 29, 2021 at 18:29 #14770
Genos midi out to OAX 500 midi in working OK – Can now control upper, lower and pedals.
Maybe I could soon have the first OAX 500 with full pedalboard?
Derek…….August 26, 2021 at 02:15 #14701
Was coming up with unable to see/find an ini.file plus the route to that file ( sorry should have made a note – think it was maybe styles? ). I tried selecting all possible answers ( Yes,No,Cancel ) with no success.
When I tried with complete upgrade, it just worked.
Not sure if I told you I have swapped my OAX 1 with a OAX 500.
Derek…….August 25, 2021 at 15:50 #14697
Could not for some reason do an upgrade to install, but did a backup and Complete Install then loaded my backup.
No problems yet……
Derek…..April 7, 2021 at 06:16 #12589
Thanks for the info – could be useful for the future if I’m ever brave enough to open a new account.
Derek……..April 6, 2021 at 17:33 #12586
I have opened my old Facebook Account but have had problems before and don’t intend to leave working for to long. So would be very pleased if you transfer files etc.
Derek……March 24, 2021 at 15:19 #12460
Thank you for that info…..as luck would have it I normally always set my system to English UK so that answers why I’ve never had that problem.
Derek…..March 24, 2021 at 05:00 #12458
Had that problem with my old 700 – you need to set in windows. Come out of OAX and connect a mouse and keyboard via USB to make it easy. just click on time bottom right and it should take you to time setting where you can set to greenwich mean time or what ever time zone you require. If that does not work right click on cursor icon bottom left go to settings then time language zone settings. I spent hours trying to do this with Trevor ( Allens Music) on the phone trying to do this as I have no windows PC to compare with. Then found my 700 was working with windows 8 not 10.
OAX works on any windows / any version does not matter time or zone.
Derek… PS if it came from Allens ring them, they should of checked that before delivering.March 15, 2021 at 15:07 #12399
1. Have you loaded all 5 files into the root directory of your USB.
You will need all 5 not just the 2 files.
2. There was a ini.file problem when the 28.01 first came out which was caused by the main server. This was corrected. If you are using an original copy reload the files from the website and try again.
3. When I upgraded to 28.01 at first it failed. I took a complete back up to USB then did a complete install ( as a new system ), then reloaded the backup.
Note this worked for me. my advice would be to wait to see if anyone has any other ideas first.
Derek…..March 13, 2021 at 14:55 #12349
I went from a Marqee to a OAX700 which I got a bit fed up with because at the time Wersi service was very hit and miss. Then I had only the external Vocalis speakers which I personally found were good. I have a single garage which I have sound proofed and converted into my man shed / studio. Then went to a Bohm which was a fantastic machine but so complicated even with the new software. That is still for sale on Allens website. I now have an OAX 1 with lower keyboard and 17 pedalboard which I find great as I can just pick up the top keyboard and put in the car. Also have a Genos.
With the OAX1 I use the internal 60watt x2 set on a low volume then a pair of M Audio monitors 70watt which I place behind me. I did this with the OAX700 and found it made a real improvement to just the front speakers on their own. Maybe that would be your way to go if you wished to improve the sound of your OAX800 ( if Needed ).
I do have a M J Acoustic Sound system 400watt ( 2x sats and 1x woofer ) but tend only to use this with the Genos.
Derek….March 13, 2021 at 03:41 #12344
Bills said some very wise words above. I also had a Marquee so I understand what you are finding. Give it another couple of years and you will only then start to understand how versatile the wersi is.
On another note – how are you finding the internal speakers?
Derek……March 11, 2021 at 05:50 #12335
Page 163 of Operating Manual.
The only way I can see at the moment is to select the STS then adjust the volumes as required then save as a whole preset.
Derek……March 11, 2021 at 05:36 #12334
1. Check to see if you have LM Hold on ( lower manual hold ).
2. Press Mixer left of the STS icons on screen then on the right you have several chord detection settings. Volumes can be set for the style on same page which can be saved to the preset you are using.
3. When you select STS the volume of stops seam to be set for that STS = not sure where to change or if you can??
Will investigate etc. and get back to you…….
Derek……January 11, 2021 at 13:27 #11650
Excellent timing was just about to start looking at this subject….
Derek…….January 11, 2021 at 09:48 #11633
Yes tried all the obvious things, it’s not happening as much as it did.
Derek…..January 11, 2021 at 04:21 #11627
Sorry back again – the Audio Board error is still pop-in up on the odd occasion.
Have to restart to clear have you any idea’s etc???
Derek…..January 10, 2021 at 09:44 #11622
That may explain the error message that kept pop-in up on start up.
Funny it does not pop-up anymore……see attached.
Attachments:You must be logged in to view attached files.January 10, 2021 at 09:33 #11621
That’s good news I like it as is, so no intention of changing.
Well worth resetting back to factory and starting afresh than finding it’s wrong
further down the line.
Also the Roland Integra 7 is fully installed and working well.
Only the Screen to change when Wersi delivers.
Now I can get on and start playing the beast…..
Derek……January 5, 2021 at 09:09 #11345
Around 3 years ago I had a Used 700 which had a few problems and Wersi ask me to leave on line so that they could sort out etc. During that time almost a day the whole windows upgraded to the latest version. After that the virus warning was flashing up every day.
After several try’s I did manage to stop this in settings but could not remember how as I now only use Apple Mac. So far I have not seen it up again after upgrading and turning notifications off. Lets hope……
Derek….January 4, 2021 at 16:48 #11320
Mine is now set the same as your attachment ( all Off ).
No Upgrades have been completed since 2016, so hopefully all is now OK.
I think the RAM has been upgraded to 16GB as the memory board is a Crucial.com board.
Note: only had the OAX 1 since just before Xmas, not sure of the history Etc.
Also I upgraded to 2.80.01 today, although it said was completed correctly I could not run.
So I reloaded the files using all 5 files and did a complete rebuild so far running OK and
I’ve got a lot more factory presets than before ( lucky I did a backup ).
As I have not owned the keyboard for that long had not saved many user presets so starting as a new factory reload and starting afresh, will see what happens????
Derek…..January 4, 2021 at 09:10 #11299
Have done that before but not for a long time – hopefully its OK now.
Derek…..January 3, 2021 at 13:55 #11266
I’ve been off the Wersi site for a couple of years having a muck around with Bohm Organs.
Now back after I got hold of a used OAX1 with L/Keyboard & Pedals.
I seem to remember on my old 700 that the Anti-Virus Alert kept coming up asking you to upgrade / out of date. Now getting this on my OAX1 also asking to upgrade Windows defender. Was there ever a way to stop this pop-in up by going into Windows settings. Since I retired 11 years ago I gave up with Windows and only use Apple Mac – the only PC I have is in the OAX1.
I’ve a look in set up but can’t find anything??
Derek……January 2, 2021 at 16:37 #11234
As far as I know the only reason to upgrade is if you had the extra drawbars. I am using a OAX1 with lower keyboard and 17 Pedalboard which is basically the same system as you. Therefore I shall be staying on 28.0 until the next upgrade comes along. You will not be gaining anything if you upgrade so don’t take the risk.
Derek….December 27, 2020 at 05:17 #11199
Thanks Curt, The simple things are always the hardest.December 26, 2020 at 06:13 #11187
How do you close the “Music Achive”??
On main Screen touch the top preset box and hold, go’s into Music Archive but how do you get out and back to the main screen – the only way I’ve found is to select and save one.
Then delete the preset.
Derek…….December 13, 2020 at 17:15 #11080
Only problem I’ve heard of was an ini file but that was down to Wersi’s server and was sorted ages ago.
Derek…..December 10, 2020 at 06:19 #11005
Yes you are right regards the OAX1 Midi. There is also no USB Midi as with the OAX500.
If you want me to try anything on OAX1 let me know etc…..
Derek……December 10, 2020 at 06:13 #11004
I have just obtained a used OAX1 with lower keyboard from Allens Music UK and they managed to get me a 17note pedalboard. I found the swell pedal a real pain and have fitted it to the top of the pedalboard. This for me works great having it all in one unit.
My original intention was to build a 25 note midi pedalboard but due to this midi problem will stay with the 17note for now.
Derek….December 7, 2020 at 15:35 #10961
Thanks for the info. I did not want to open up as the screen although working fine is broken and I did not want to move / disturb it. Allens have a new screen on order and will replace the battery if needed when they do the screen. So for the moment I am going to leave it.
Derek…..December 6, 2020 at 13:22 #10949
Anyone know if the OAX1 has a backup battery regards the Windows PC as my Clock Time will not save and it often when starting go’s straight to Bios.
If so do you know what the battery is I would expect something like a CR2032.
Derek……..December 6, 2020 at 13:14 #10948
I think it was Jerry had the same problem and Wersi sent a new unit which did fit.
After looking at the unit I found it easy to undo the 20 odd screws that hold the lower keyboard in case and then cut 1/4 inch off the support poles and refit. Now fits fine, only took about 45mins to do.
Derek…….December 5, 2020 at 04:39 #10922
Thanks for that I was thinking about removing the speakers but did not want do just yet as the screen is broken although working fine did not want to disturb it. I have a new screen on order via Allens Music.
Derek……December 5, 2020 at 04:33 #10921
Hi Juergen, Jerry,
I have just obtained a used OAX1 with lower manual and 17 pedalboard and in no way do I class it as a budget organ. Just over 2 years ago I owned a OAX700 which was sold as had no confidence in the backup. I have another thread just started regards the internal speakers which when I install the top part on the bottom the round ring of the speaker rests on the back of the lower keys jamming them. The lower part is new but the main keyboard is a lot older, was wondering has the lower part been modified?
At the moment I have turned down the internal speakers and running to 100w sats and a 200w woofer which sound great. To solve the jamming problem I’ve fitted some rubber feet to the bottom part so the top sits 1/4 inch higher.
Derek…England UK.December 4, 2020 at 09:22 #10898
Anyone out there with an OAX 1 single keyboard.
Just obtained a used OAX1 not sure of its age but have loaded 2.8 OK and it seams to work as it should. But after trying to install a new lower keyboard section the main internal speakers underneath rest on the back of the lower keyboard jamming some of the keys.
Has anybody had this problem? I have solved it by fitting some extra rubber feet to raise the top keyboard by about 1/4 inch. If anyone has had this problem, would love to hear how they solved it etc.
Derek…..December 4, 2020 at 04:58 #10896
Yes things seem to work now as expected. So far I’ve only used my Genos to play the Wersi pedal sounds to see if possible, as I was thinking of building a 2 octave pedalboard.
But Allens Music have provided me with a used 17 note pedalboard instead of the small 13 note. Not sure if its worth the trouble for 4 extra notes?
I have installed the separate swell pedal on the top of pedal board which I find is better than it sliding all over the place.
One small problem I do have is Allens have given me a lower keyboard module which you stand the OAX1 on giving 2 keyboards which work fine. But the OAX1 comes with internal speakers which are fitted underneath the top keyboard and stick out about 1/4 of an inch. Which when put on top of the lower keyboard just touch the back of the lower keyboard jamming the keys. I’ve solved this by installing 4 rubber feet to lift it up. Was wondering if anybody else had this problem, maybe Wersi have changed the design slightly as the Top part is a lot older than the bottom or even maybe the speakers have been replaced with bigger ones??
Was not sure how to start a new forum for this ??
Derek……December 2, 2020 at 06:11 #10849
Thanks for the suggestions but have now sorted. I must remember I’m dealing with Wersi – like the line output:-
Line out 1 is labelled 2 at the back and 2 is labelled 1.
Midi 1 is labelled 2 at the back and Midi 2 is labelled 1.
Derek………November 30, 2020 at 15:45 #10834
Thank you for checking Midi in regards pedals. I now have a used OAX 1 which has several problems like a cracked screen which is on order, but is working fine. Also have a lower keyboard module and 17 note pedalboard. The OAX 1 is as I understand like the OAX 500 which has Midi in 1 & 2 but no USB Midi.
Have tried to control Wersi via Midi without success, hence why I included in this thread.
Connected Genos/out to Wersi/in and transmitted over channel 3. I can monitor the signal going out from Genos but no response from Wersi? – have tried most other channels with same response.
Any hints as to what if anything I should set or try on Wersi etc?? would be most welcome.
Derek……November 30, 2020 at 03:46 #10831
There’s a couple of “M J Acoustics” 120watt Woofers sitting in the back of my studio
taking up space. Although around 16 years old work perfectly, would be great for any one using the internal speakers of their Wersi. Free to anyone who can pick up ( Cambridgeshire UK ) or arrange a postal company to pick up.
You only need one which as Curt said can be placed anywhere in the room. Just connect to the line outputs.